JwDom is a series of doors. Each door leads to more egregious behaviors from the flock. It would be easy to sit behind door number 1 with rose colored glasses on and view all the lovely people. But try pioneering, bethel service, ms, elder, etc. If you had a dipstick to check it first to see how wonderful it may or may not be, specifically dealing with the psychotic personalities of your peers walking through those doors, you would immediately shove the dipstick down and run. Many of us learned the hard way.
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My experience with the people in my hall
by Freeandclear ini've been awake now for about 6 months i'd guess and a member here for a couple of weeks.
it's been eye opening to read other peoples experiences on here and i appreciate all of you.
i've noticed in many, seemingly most, of your comments that you were not treated well at your hall or you have had very negative experiences in the "org" so i thought i'd like to share mine.. in all my time as a jw i have to say for the most part i always loved the people.
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Stephen Lett at our assembly today
by StarTrekAngel inhe delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.
wife typed up the whole thing.
i will be posting when i get a chance.
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the girl next door
Imitate Jah, Jesus, the angels and.....the elders. But be careful because elders screw up. Don't worship them because if you do, when they fail, it will draw you away from "the truth". Lots of time spent on elders. Pretty much the same drip as always, except elders are leaving in droves and rank and file are following them out. Thus the speech.
Good note taking. Thanks for posting.
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Is a piano inevitable?
by slimboyfat ini was at a concert last night and the presence and stature of the piano struck me.
and i thought: if the piano wasn't invented when it was, would it have been invented by someone else instead?
or if there was a world the same as our, except with a different history, would it have pianos now too or would it be modern world, similar in many respects, only without pianos?
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I watch the Da Vinci series. Loosely based on history. Yet I am impressed with the portrayal of Leo's designer mind. Some are just gifted in what seems a miraculous way. Thats what it was with the piano. Something easier, broader, that just made sense. Of course someone else would have come along to dream it up. Look at the iphone. -
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How the Internet is Destroying Mormonism
by slimboyfat ininteresting video, shame it wasn't about jws.
http://youtu.be/-1bdbkjbzzy.
what a would be your top 5 shocking things you found out about jws on the internet?.
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Good thread, and nice opener from Orphan Crow. Would like to research those bullet points more. Any direction would be greatly appreciated OC. -
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What ever happened to Greg Stafford?
by Luther bertrand ini met him a couple times at some debates and ran with a circle of friends?
however, i never heard what happened to him.what the heck is he up to after having written 3 dissertations.
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Stephen Lett at our assembly today
by StarTrekAngel inhe delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.
wife typed up the whole thing.
i will be posting when i get a chance.
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Things JW's and Atheists have in common
by juandefiero ini was just thinking about something someone said on another thread.
to paraphrase, 'jw beliefs like there being no hellfire, immortal soul, the condition at death...have the ring of truth.'.
i realized, atheists believe these things too!.
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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the girl next door
Fisherman, you keep using the word "immunity". There is no immunity, if there was Watchtower would not be doling out millions of dollars in litigation, settlements and judgement. The word you are looking for is "privilege" and as discussed previously there are ALWAYS exceptions to privilege.
The duty to report child abuse often arises in settings that have nothing to do with the clergy-communicant privilege. For example, information regarding child abuse by church personnel may be transmitted to church officials from clergy or non-clergy persons such as the victims, family members or friends of the victim in circumstances not covered by the clergy privilege. Similarly, church officials may conduct investigations and otherwise obtain information from sources in unprivileged contexts.
This is fact and established by case law. It illustrates fully where JWs fail when asserting privilege.
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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That's exactly how it transpires and is self explanatory. Shall I refer you to case law scope and how issues proceed to the SC and the critical path it follows. No. Do your homework. -
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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Six jurisdictions have expressly abrogated the clergy/penitent privilege with regard to mandatory reporting laws. The legal climate is changing slowly but surely and many more jurisdictions will adopt the same laws. Secrets confided to "clergy" are getting much much harder to keep. Also, with the passage of strict, no-tolerance child-abuse statutes nearly everywhere, the Supreme Court will be compelled to weigh in on clergy privilege. So many crimes are accumulating that are "exempted" for the clergy penitent privilege, there is an overwhelming load of litigation in lower courts in disagreement with each other. The SC has no choice but to address it.